We met once, episode 140, in a house north of the city and it was my first and only "live" podcast appearance. We are doing it more in the Covid style with four of us in four locations. What the hell is shoe gazing? Are people drinking an IPA on my show? What have we been up to since we last chatted? Where has the atheist community gone? Will there be conferences in the future? So much chat, so much time.